[BigBear]

I've read in several places that some states have restrictions on what they term "car carry". Are there regulations in Oregon that pertain to CCW's in cars (or boats, motocycles etc.)?

[.45glockman]

The only law (ORS 166.250 Unlawful possession of firearms) relating to carrying handguns in a vehicle that I'm aware of specifically exempts CHL holders. Without a CHL you practicly have to completely disassemble the gun or have it locked up and out of reach. If you have a CHL, carry on - no worries.

[Lawhobbit]

.45glockman, on May 18 2005, 06:08 AM, said:

The only law (ORS 166.250 Unlawful possession of firearms) relating to carrying handguns in a vehicle that I'm aware of specifically exempts CHL holders.  Without a CHL you practicly have to completely disassemble the gun or have it locked up and out of reach.  If you have a CHL, carry on - no worries.

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I specifically don't do lawyer work here, but I *will* suggest that you give that statute a closer reading. You might find it doesn't say what you think it does.

[.45glockman]

Geesh... Getting picked on by the lawyer. That sucks.

I, unlike some members of this board, am not the most articulate person in the world. I try to always include a link to the appropriate law because there ALWAYS seems to be exceptions and conditions. Lord knows I am not a lawyer and I don't know everything. I was just trying to help and give the poor man/woman a place to jump off. (Hopefully not to their death or a jail cell.)

That said I am more than open to "reeducation" when it's needed.

The specific piece I was referring to in my original response was "b. Possesses a handgun that is concealed and readily accessible to the person within any vehicle". I should have clarified that the following statue 166.260 is where CHL holders are exempted from the conditions of 166.250.

I also ommited "(3) Firearms carried openly in belt holsters are not concealed within the meaning of this section." Simply because most belt holsters when seating are not "carried openly" by my understanding. This is one of those legal mumbo jumbo things that I could use a good lawyer for.

What I feel confident in: With a CHL I really have no worries. To avoid problems without a CHL I should carry it locked up or in the trunk to ensure the firearm is not "readily accessible" if stopped by the police.

I am not taking into consideration such things as: hunting or fishing trips, life in an RV, or on my way to the range. Rather my focus was on running around in my day to day errands with a gun in the car.

If I've really missed the boat Lawhobbit please feel free to send me an IM with a smack upside the head so I can correct any misinformation I've been shoveling. Better yet, please feel free to correct me openly if you think I'm smoking crack and way off track. I would much rather be corrected than walk around like a babbling idiot.

Thanks!
-45

[Lawhobbit]

.45glockman, on May 18 2005, 07:25 AM, said:

Geesh... Getting picked on by the lawyer.  That sucks. 

To say the least.

.45glockman, on May 18 2005, 07:25 AM, said:

What I feel confident in:  With a CHL I really have no worries.  To avoid problems without a CHL I should carry it locked up or in the trunk to ensure the firearm is not "readily accessible" if stopped by the police.

That about sums it up nicely - it's better safe than sorry in things like that, since there are too many people who'd cheer the fact that you were shot as an Official Perpetrator Of Evil and Enemy Of The State, since the law authorizes you to be shot or somesuch.

No smacking needed - in this day and age there's nothing wrong with being OVER cautious, to my way of thinking. It increases your life expectancy markedly, y'know...

[tap22a]

a few years ago my father was pulled over and when he opened the glovebox the .22 pistol he had in there fell out. he said he froze, knowing the cop had seen it, and waited for the cop to tell him what to do. the cop didnt freak out. he just asked my dad if it was loaded. my dad said yes. the cop asked if my dad had a CHL. my dad said no. so the cop told him that by law, if the gun is loaded, it has to be kept in the open, or not concealed, like in a glovebox. but if its unloaded, the pistol can be kept concealed. so you can keep the pistol in the glovebox and mag or speedloader in your pocket and you're legal. but like you guys said, if you have a CHL, you're in the clear, you dont have to worry about it.

[tap22a]

And speaking of car carry, i found this cool holster.....check it out.

click on the picture and it should enlarge.....

http://www.desantish...er.com/n92.html

[SiG Lady]

Hmm... I might just want one of those........

[tap22a]

yeah, it pretty neat. nice convenient way to have a second gun in the car with you too....

[Lawhobbit]

tap22a, on May 18 2005, 04:56 PM, said:

yeah, it pretty neat. nice convenient way to have a second gun in the car with you too....

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Or this one:

http://grassburr.com...ed-handguns.htm

[Rolem]

Nice concept I haven't seen those holsters before. Has anyone here tried either of them?

For long drives I can see them working very well but for the short jaunts they may not.

[Skippy]

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The only law (ORS 166.250 Unlawful possession of firearms) relating to carrying handguns in a vehicle that I'm aware of specifically exempts CHL holders. Without a CHL you practicly have to completely disassemble the gun or have it locked up and out of reach. If you have a CHL, carry on - no worries

I know that if you don't have a CHL, you have to have the item in question in plain sight...dash, passenger seat, etc....or of course unloaded and placed away safely...It doen't have to be disassembled, just unloaded if not in plain view...CHL carriers don't have any thing to worry about...

[.45glockman]

*sigh* Yes as more than one person has pointed out I embelished the truth a tad. *sigh* Carry on.

[jnichols]

.45glockman, on May 22 2005, 05:13 PM, said:

*sigh*  Yes as more than one person has pointed out I embelished the truth a tad.  *sigh*  Carry on. 

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LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!

[Q-ball]

I haven't found a good 'car' holster yet, but on the longer trips it's just easier to let my kid hold my weapon for me.
















Alright, now let me have it!

[Lawhobbit]

Q-ball, on May 22 2005, 08:36 PM, said:

I haven't found a good 'car' holster yet, but on the longer trips it's just easier to let my kid hold my weapon for me.

Alright, now let me have it!

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[adroitus]

Dear DeSantis,

I would like to order a Kingston™ Car Seat Holster, model n92, for $45.99. Please ship it in the same display box shown on your website. I can come to your location to pick it up if that would be more convenient. Do you offer discounts for display models?

Thank you for your time.

tap22a, on May 18 2005, 01:47 PM, said:

And speaking of car carry, i found this cool holster.....check it out.

click on the picture and it should enlarge.....

http://www.desantish...er.com/n92.html

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[rscanady]

If you read the super ultra so small not legible with the naked eye magnified 10x over print, you would have seen that the aforementioned holster does not include display case.

[MarkG]

Maybe I'm a little paranoid regarding the meaning of "readily accessable". I dont have my CHL as yet so when I transport my weapon into the field on outdoor trips, I have it in a combination/key handgun lock box, unloaded with mags stored elswhere in the vehicle and with a cable lock on it. Is this sufficient? It's a pain but I do want to be within the definition of the law no matter how vaguely it's worded.

[neno]

to me personally .. it being locked in the trunk unloaded is sufficient .
Just don`t drive like an idiot and you won`t get pulled over, then its a non-issue.
probably it being unloaded is the biggest thing .. but to each their own..

[saxon]

i can look for the ors BUT
if going shooting or otherwise
in the state of oregon you can open carry IN a car
in plain VIEW
and no problems
ask your local police

[neno]

ask your local police

I would not trust the local police. Some of them are less educated than those of us who have taken the Basic Handgun course, and know less about oregon gun statutes than you and I. Get with a lawyer for an hour - money spent will be good in the long run. .

[saxon]

ask your local police

I would not trust the local police. Some of them are less educated than those of us who have taken the Basic Handgun course, and know less about oregon gun statutes than you and I. Get with a lawyer for an hour - money spent will be good in the long run. .

i said that because in oregon we can open carry a loaded gun
but in pdx your car is concidered public
and in pdx it is iligal to carry in the open a loaded gun
so yes ask your local police and ask them for the ors ect ect
not all cops are dumb
in fact i know at least one well one that i have shot with who was or is still on this board

[BrandonTidd]

saxon, on 25 June 2009 - 09:52 PM, said:

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I would not trust the local police. Some of them are less educated than those of us who have taken the Basic Handgun course, and know less about oregon gun statutes than you and I. Get with a lawyer for an hour - money spent will be good in the long run. .
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i said that because in oregon we can open carry a loaded gun
but in pdx your car is concidered public
and in pdx it is iligal to carry in the open a loaded gun
so yes ask your local police and ask them for the ors ect ect
not all cops are dumb
in fact i know at least one well one that i have shot with who was or is still on this board

This is true....The oregon court of Appeals has stated that if your car is on a public road it is considered public place. There are several counties that think the same way and have declared it public.

So while YOU have a CHL and keep the gun in the glovebox. Your friend who is riding with you without a CHL can get popped for having a gun accessible and concealed even though it's your gun.

I know the OFF is working on changing this, simply, because if your car is public, why do you need a warrant to be searched?

It is not public and a rediculous rule!